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Norwegian

This discussion bothers me. People spend a lot of time on statistics and facts. But the facts can't be found on the internet, you haft to see them by yourself.

I'm a norwegian and I can say I know the norwegian people a lot. I got a friend which likes Bush, but he is just one of very few people who do that.

The norwegian people doesn't hate America, they just dislike their policy. Stating that Americans are making stupid decisions in spending their money on war, giving the people of the world sufferings, instead of spending them on their people and other people outside US to give them a better life.

US has a lot of "Greatness" in one word, but in another, they are seemed as one of the most stpuid peoples of the world (This is not my personal opinion). Europeans mean that US value things unnecessary. In Europe we don't bother Greatness, for us is the smart things, not the "great" which matters.

Most Europeans have a past going far longer back in time than the United STates of America, and most of them have far more reasons to be proud.

The Greeks and Italians are the founders of civilization. France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Denmark, Russia, Turkey and England are the colonial powers who founded America, and their greatness reach high above what the Americans ever can claim to have.

But this was exactly what I was speacking about, IT DOESN'T MATTER!

It makes no good for people to have greatness. To be proud is only good if you have something to be proud of. Like making peace in the world, winning a Nobel's Peace Prize, for instance, is a far greater and well deserved glory than helping the Europeans in a war which cost millions of lives. A war were the United States did something the world will never excuse them for doing, they launched not one, but two nuclear bombs.

Killing more than a hundred thousand innocent and non-innocent people instant.

Please, tell your sons and daughters about "the pride of America", but then mention what costs the Americans at the same time has done upon the world. You could say it was necessary, but if you understand something of what I just told ya, then you should understand that the United States of America helps some people at the cost of others. If you can live with that and say it is justice then you simply does not wish to learn. Then you don't want to see the truth.

What is the meaning of life if it's not to make it better? And how makes war peoples life better? War leaves hatred and unsecurity. Making a war makes people hate you. The US is not safe as long as they are hated.

GK

Norwegian,

Your opinions are just memorized Euro-leftist ignorance, with no ability to judge between good and evil. I can ask you some simple questions about your principles, which I know you will not be brave enough to answer.

Answer the following questions, if you have the courage :

1) You repeat what most Europeans repeat, which is that you 'dislike America's policy'. But Europeans live in a bubble.

America, Australia, India, Eastern Europe, etc, dislike Western Europe's policy of letting evil go unanswered, as in Darfur and Tibet. This group is much larger than Western Europeans who are jealous of an America that has the courage and resources to confront evil.

2) Why have so many European countries joined the US efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan? European nations that have been part of the Coalition include Norway, Britain, Italy, the Netherlands, Poland, Denmark, Ukraine, and at one time, Spain.

3) Why have France and Germany both elected pro-US leaders in the last 2 years? Sarkozy and Merkel are pro-US leaders.

4) Why did America become a democracy over 230 years ago, while Germany, France, Spain, Italy, and Greece only got democracy 30-50 years ago?

5) You state that :
United States did something the world will never excuse them for doing, they launched not one, but two nuclear bombs.

Of course, you have no problem with Hitler and Japan killing millions of innocents. If not for America, Hitler would have totally destroyed Norway. You are an ungrateful fool.

So why is Japan a close ally of the US today, helping the US in Iraq? Was the US the more evil country in WW2, or were Germany and Japan more evil?

6) Why is Europe doing nothing to save the victim of genocide in Darfur? Why is Europe doing nothing to help Tibetans? Because Europe never has an interest in preventing evil acts, that is why. Europe only creates suffering (colonialism, Nazi Germany, etc.), but never prevents it.

7) You claim that :
Making a war makes people hate you. The US is not safe as long as they are hated.

So why has the US had no terrorist attacks in 6 years, while London and Madrid have been attacked? Why are cartoonists in Denmark being attacked? Why was Theo van Gogh killed in the Netherlands? These have nothing to do with America. What is Europe doing to protect European people?

You appear to be the typical uneducated Euro-leftist who learns only by watching television, rather than thinking rationally. I am stunned at how uneduated about history Europeans have become.

I already know that you are not brave enough to answer these questions.


Kevin Van Tessan

Problem is that indians have been under american influence for a long time and they want to experience the american way of life . Indians are under complex and try to act like American's and favoring America and also they both do not like China . India is just another puppet of USA just like Israel but its wrong to Israel because they in a way run most of America. I have only seen such posts on Indian sites and not on some other sites , Indians feel they are inferior compared to the Americans making Indians feel in complex. Indians are too overconfident if we compare it with the other countries in the world and they like to brag alot. Main point is that India is closer to the USA because they both have the same views such as ; 1. Indian and Israeli relations are good just like the USA and India supports Israels decisions. 2. Both USA and India have the same views on middle east policies. 3. India thinks they will be helped by the USA to compete with China ( Impossible if we take a look at the GDP , possible if China is at a 20 year halt ). Both are democracies but India is known for Democracy but caste System and corruption is head over heels.

I-Robotic

Oh dear, has your own self esteem stooped so low these days that you have to justify why some countries like you? Who would have thought this day would come? Why not address the issues as to why so many european people (not sycophantic politicians)dislike the US (the politicians not so much the people in general)? If you really believe that you send your miltiary into places where you're not welcome, in the name of peace and political stability (as opposed to securing oil reserves for devouring industrialsts and consumers) then I guess you really did deserve two portions of George Bush. What is wrong with you people, I mean seriously what is wrong with you?

Oh and I'm a left leaning european with a niece who's a corporal in the US army and I have nothing but admiration for her or indeed any normal US soldier who chooses to serve their country they have far more courage than me. I just don't want a single one of them to die for the obscene reasons you seem to be justifying in this pathetic blog.

And what is the US political obsession with being a Vietnam Veteran as part of a political campaign 30 years after this farce (you know guys where a small bunch of lesser armed but smarter people in half a tiny country kept your military might at bay for several years)? Are the political right in the US so bereft of ideas that a long since gone war is all you have? I guess that's because you can't manufacture a god or stick an invisible being on a podium?

As for Sara Palin, are you people serious? McCain has one meeting and suddenly she could be Vice President? That's like bill Gates meeting a guy with an abacus and putting him in charge of new product divsion (oh wait a minute that might improve MS applcations!). I mean this is a woman who has the skin of a dead bear she shot draped across her sofa in her office? It couldn't get any sillier unless a pretty dumb sexist macho man who used to be a Mr Universe and then acted badly in macho movies before stepping off screen and becoming a governor of a major state........

Here's the real future just hand over running the country to Hollywood, after all you're almost there anyways.

The best book to come out of the US in a long time?

The unmaking of the American Working Class - Reg Theriault

Put your gun down and read it sometime it's what America used to be all about.

Have a nice day.

I-robotic

Hey I'll try and answer some of your crazy generalised all emcompassing moronic questions.

1) You repeat what most Europeans repeat, which is that you 'dislike America's policy'. But Europeans live in a bubble.

Answer -Really? Is this why 85% of americans don't have a passport? Would that not suggest the bubble is rooted in your own country?

America, Australia, India, Eastern Europe, etc, dislike Western Europe's policy of letting evil go unanswered, as in Darfur and Tibet. This group is much larger than Western Europeans who are jealous of an America that has the courage and resources to confront evil.

Answer -And the US contribution to stopping atrocities in Chechnya was?
and the US has never explained why Iraq was blamed for 911 when all the bombers were from Saudia Arabia, a country you still trade with? The people who dislke america probably dislike the American right in government and not the majority of the american people, unless its people like you defending the indefensible.

2) Why have so many European countries joined the US efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan? European nations that have been part of the Coalition include Norway, Britain, Italy, the Netherlands, Poland, Denmark, Ukraine, and at one time, Spain.

Answer -usuually against the wishes of the majority of people in those countries but in the name of trade benefits with the US. Which makes those european countries leaders (except spain where the guy was as good as his word and pulled the troops out when he got elected)as cynical and shallow as the Bush admnistration.

3) Why have France and Germany both elected pro-US leaders in the last 2 years? Sarkozy and Merkel are pro-US leaders.

Answer -Are they both pro american or just poltically smart? I imagine they are both interested in trade as opposed to a love in, after all it's the US way. What's wrong with you don't you get it?

4) Why did America become a democracy over 230 years ago, while Germany, France, Spain, Italy, and Greece only got democracy 30-50 years ago?
Answer - now that is seriously funny. America was flinstone country 230 years ago you asshole. Greece was the founder of democracy when the US wasn't even a hole from an asteroid. What kind of history book do you read?

5) You state that :
United States did something the world will never excuse them for doing, they launched not one, but two nuclear bombs.

Of course, you have no problem with Hitler and Japan killing millions of innocents. If not for America, Hitler would have totally destroyed Norway. You are an ungrateful fool.

Answer- I think you'll find that Norway actually supported the Nazis for awhile, but hey you're on a roll of ignorance is bliss so let's not stop that train. I can't magne many decent hman beings ever being grateful to a country for dropping nuclear bombs on children.

So why is Japan a close ally of the US today, helping the US in Iraq? Was the US the more evil country in WW2, or were Germany and Japan more evil?

Answer- Different era same intentions I guess. Trade relations, protectionism. America rarely enters a war in search of peace there usually has to be something more beneficial at the end of that blood red rainbow. The US sat back and watched Cuba fall apart out of sheer spite because of its previous association with Russia. It didn't stop the US opening Guantanamo Bay though did it?

6) Why is Europe doing nothing to save the victim of genocide in Darfur? Why is Europe doing nothing to help Tibetans? Because Europe never has an interest in preventing evil acts, that is why. Europe only creates suffering (colonialism, Nazi Germany, etc.), but never prevents it.

Answer- 'Europe create's suffering'? Jeez man, Europe also created America but I guess that's the real cross to bear. What exactyl is america doing in Darfur as this genocide seems to have been going for sometime? did you send Newt Gingridge and a bow and arrow and some instant soup?

7) You claim that :
Making a war makes people hate you. The US is not safe as long as they are hated.

So why has the US had no terrorist attacks in 6 years, while London and Madrid have been attacked? Why are cartoonists in Denmark being attacked? Why was Theo van Gogh killed in the Netherlands? These have nothing to do with America. What is Europe doing to protect European people?

You appear to be the typical uneducated Euro-leftist who learns only by watching television, rather than thinking rationally. I am stunned at how uneduated about history Europeans have become.

Answer- ok now you are jumping off the cliff into the propaganda sea. The US is the TV nation of the world and people like you believe everything your right wing media tells you.

How many muslims live in europe and the US? if they were all the fanatics your government say they are you think we'd still be here? There are 2 million muslims in the UK if they wanted to create mayhem they could do this tomorrow.

And what did the US do leading up to 911 in terms of preventing such a terrible event happening? Your secret service knew about Bin Laden, the CIA knew about the dangers and was made aware of airborne threats long before they happened and yet here you are up on your podium boasting about 'preventing' terrorist attacks? You're not the best advocate of the intelligentsia in your country homeboy.

You think Bush is educated?

GK

I-robotic,

Your ignorance displays the typical lack of knowledge possessed by uneducated Euro-leftists (known as 'Eunuchs').

1) Is this why 85% of americans don't have a passport?

Americans don't need passports to visit Canada, Mexico, or Britain. Furthermore, far more Americans have been to Europe than Europeans have been to America.

Furthermore, America is very large, which is why Americans and Canadians travel within their own vast countries. It seems your knowledge of Geography is weak.

2) You have not answered this question. The 'majority' agrees with American, not Eunuchs.

3) You have dodged this question. France, Germany, and Italy all have elected pro-US leaders and gotten rid of leftists like Shroeder and Chirac. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery, you know.

4) Why did America become a democracy over 230 years ago, while Germany, France, Spain, Italy, and Greece only got democracy 30-50 years ago?

Greece only became a democracy in the 1970s. Go read a history book. It has NOT been a democracy for 2000 years, just because the word 'democracy' is Greek in origin.

Your extreme envy is showing.

5) America has brought freedom and prosperity to more countries than any other in the world. Europe, in particular, has benefited from America the most.

6) Yes, Europe has created suffering (Nazi Germany, colonialism, French genocides in Africa), but never prevents it. You have not refuted this point, which means you have admitted it.

Plus, you have admitted that Europe does not care about genocide in Darfur, atrocities in Burma or Tibet, etc. By your own admission, you don't think Europe has any responsibility.

Well, leftists love genocide, we know that.

7) Yawn. America has had no attacks in 7 years. The War on Terror has been a success. More people (including Europeans) are moving to America than ever before.

You think Bush is educated?

He has an MBA from Harvard, which is far better than anything you have. Plus, in this post alone, you have demonstrated an ignorance of history, geography, and mathematics.

So yes, Bush, and his supporters, are demonstrably smarter than you.

I know your type, you will not have the courage to reply. Your memorized lines have been refuted, and now you have no further depth to defend your statements.


I-robotic

You are programmed to receive but to not open your mind. You really are a moron america must be so proud of you.

Stick a fork in your ass and turn yourself over, you're done.

GK

I-robotic,

Ooooh, you collapsed in shambolic humiliation even faster than I expected. Jealous anti-Americans are becoming weaker each year.

Readers, note how yet another EUnuch could not answer simple refutations of his memorized lines, and has no other tool except namecalling. It never takes more than one reply to defeat them.

I-robotic

Don't try and justify your pathetic narrow minded view of anything outside america by trying to drag other viewers into your realm. Answer the fucking questions instead of ignoring them. Intellect and you are as close as Bush and anyone who cares about the suffering of human beings in a less priviliged position. You seem to be so proud of your 'eunuch' phrase it's all you've got. As opposed to what? being a dumb right wing fuckwit with no substance? Answer the hilarious america being the inventors of Democracy question, go on scrape the scum off the inside of your head and take a shot.

No wonder europeans hate you. You have nothing but rhetoric and vacuous responses. Who writes your script, Clyde?

Jealous of what? your prepubic responses to anyone who challeges your point of view. How desperately sad are you?
Maybe being a eunuch has its merits it measn we don't have to suck our own cocks to get off whereas for you its a full time job.

GK

I-robotic,

Answer the fucking questions instead of ignoring them.

I did answer your questions. It is you who are avoiding mine. I'll make them even simpler (and use small words) for you :

1) Why is Europe doing nothing at all to stop human rights abuses in Darfur, Burma, Tibet, Zimbabwe, etc? Why is Europe indifferent to these atrocities, when America has successful brought democracy to Iraq and Afghanistan?

2) Why did America become a democracy over 230 years ago, while Germany, France, Spain, Italy, and Greece only got democracy 30-50 years ago? Greece, in particular, took until the 1980s.

3) Why do many Europeans move to the US to seek a better future, while there are virtually no Americans moving to Continental Europe? Arnold Schwarzenegger is a personification of how the best people leave Europe. He correctly calls people like you 'girlie-men'.

4) Why did the US become a Democracy 230 years ago, while France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Greece, etc. only became democracies 30-50 years ago? You did not answer this, and we are talking about uniterrupted democracy.

5) Why does the US do more scientific research than all of the EU combined? Why is Europe so behind in science?

6) Why did the European Chamber of Commerce say that Europe is 75 years behind the US? This is a European body, you know.

You will have to provide actual data from a reputable source to support your position, as I have provided data.

No wonder europeans hate you.

No, only EUnuchs like you hate us, which is based on your racism against non-whites who are pro-US.

India, which is much larger than Europe, is very pro-US. That is what matters.

Also, hurling profanities is the single best sign that you have been intellectually bested and humiliated at having been exposed as lacking knowledge.

If your IQ rose 30 points, it might equal that of Harvard MBA George W. Bush. If it rose 40 points, it would equal Arnold Schwarzenegger's.

tee hee....

Pink Pig

As an American who has spent years in Europe, I am neither surprised nor disappointed that the French and Germans hate America(ns). I suspect that Italy and Spain are in the same group. We don't actually need Europe for anything -- we have already thrown away a lot of money and effort trying to civilize the continentals, but it is a lost cause. Let them fight their next silly war without us.

p j

What a load of bullshit! Even the publics of americas closest allies hate them for what they have done to them. Britain would still have an aircraft industry if it were not for the yanks either stabbing us in the back or through blackmail and bribery. They broke the sound barrier with stolen British technology, then claim that it was all their own doing.
And as for their soldiers dying to save Europe, what a lot of crap!!! it was to save themselves. America does nothing that is not self-serving!

GK

p j,

You have merely ranted unintelligently, without any statistics or points. You will have to do better.

Plus, you seem to think that America is obligated to do things 'that are not self serving'. On the contrary, no nation is obligated to do that, but America is one of the only countries that actually DOES make sacrifices for the benefit of others.

Cracken

I'm from the netherlands and see myself as pro-american generally (also i have family living there and had 3 great vacations in different parts of the US sofar, and definitely hope to come back a lot more).
This however means for me that i think the country is essentially made up of people with generally the same culture as mine, who share the same ideals, to live out their lives in peace and the pursuit of happiness, this however does not mean i don't disagree with some of it's foreign policy, like the iraq war.
However i am able to make a distinction between the country and it's administrations' policies. And i think some of these numbers may be skewed in that respect too, where people might not agree with american policy, which does not mean they automatically hate america.

Oh and also bringing up the sacrficies in WWI and II.
I think everyone with their heads screwed straight in Europe know of the sacrifices the Americans made in the effort to free us and appreciates that historic fact, however that doesn't mean that current policy can't be disagreed with, since the one has nothing to do with the other.

buncle scam

of course, this is just more cleverly tailored american propaganda. as more americans are opening their eyes to the evis and deceptions of its government and military... such articles must be forged in order to try to keep patriotic drones from having seccond thoughts about the legitimacy of all the murder and rape their countrys flag is responsible for.

all they have to do is go to each country. ask "random" people on the street (who conveniently appear to be amaricanized... you know in to fashion and fanity fair, easy to spot)
while avoiding the types who appear to be more intelligent and aware of the reality of the world.

and at the end of the day, they can publish this useless article with pretty bar graphs easy for the uneducated americans to glance at and go oh we are loved.
you are hated. your government and military lies to you while they kill civilians worldwide. conducting sick tests with drugs and chemicals and hiding it for years and denying it and not aploogizing when exposed.
just remember where your drinking water comes from you patriots.

Disappointed Australian

What an utter load of drivel!

I actually came here to see if there was a decent argument to be found in this article and was greeted with nothing but nationalism, patriotism and propoganda. Your use of data from the Pew Research Centre does nothing to add to the credibility of your article.

If you knew anything about constructing a well-informed and educated article, you would know that references are key. Taking a snapshot of data and not giving your readers the chance to view the entire thing does you a grave disservice when you are trying to present your view as a credible argument. Manipulating data is not clever, it is misleading, but really, all you have to do is look at your emotive language packed to the brim with hyperbole to recognise this article for what it truly is--low-grade propoganda.

And people wonder why some of us dislike some aspects of American culture? Please actually do some research, construct a decent argument and try again later, okay? I don't hate America, but I certainly do dislike this sort of jingoistic nonsense.

GK

Australian,

You are merely projecting your own frustrations outward, as leftards are prone to do.

The research in the article is sound, and you are only angry because some countries (including Australia) think highly of the US for well-considered reasons.

And what is wrong with the Pew Reseach Centre? It is left-wing, so you should not have a problem with it. The research was good enough for The Economist, so you certainly have no right to condemn it.

If you knew anything about the world, this would not send you into a hissy fit.

Anita Roy03

Where I slightly disagree with the blogger is his/her explanation for the high pro-US, pro-Bush feelings in India.

It has been my observation that most of India's Hindu majority (75% of the total population) supports the US (and Bush) in the war against Islamic totalitarianism, while its Muslim minority (almost 20% of the population) hates the US.

In the Indian subcontinent South Asia), every Hindu who gets converted to Islam becomes an enemy of the US and Israel.

After all, Pakistanis were also Hindus before they were forcibly converted to Islam in the medieval ages. Just look at the hatred for US prevalent in Pakistan today.

Yet, the US administration continues to gift billions of dollars worth of military hardware as aid to Islamic Pakistan. Go figure !!!

Mordecai

Uhhh... Can I just ask what is the huge massive deal here? I have been reading this stuff for 15 minutes and I'll I hear is,"this aritcle is wrong," or "your wrong." First of all most of the comments are opinoins, which are not based on facts. We all have to accept that some people are misinformed, ignorant, of just believe something different than ourselves. Besides its much better that there are two different positons here than just one. We are all free to say what we want and just because we don't like it we don't have to start a debate. Besides there is a phrase with which I think might help here. It's the phras, "IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY, THEN DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL." That would help everybody, because both sides of this argument have been not-so nice.

Joe

This is absolute bullshit

wisdomofsilence

So many comments to read, lol, but I'm an American married to a Filipina woman and Philippines is around 80% approval. ;P

Packard

So GK...now, ten years later, how has the invasion of Iraq worked out for you? Oh, you're not around anymore? How convenient. Schmuck.

The Futurist

Packard,

It was working well until Obama sabotaged it in 2011, thereby creating the genocide in Syria (entirely by design). Obama and Hillary also created the Libya situation.

At least now, we have Trump, who is better than both Democrats and the GOPe cuckservatives.

Get a clue, moron.

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